tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2788216437526312119.post7474649128503247512..comments2024-03-27T21:55:58.810+02:00Comments on Fors: For feeds, Facebook is even worse than TwitterGeorge B. Mogahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13619656378366308760noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2788216437526312119.post-23514988245718733562010-02-06T13:18:59.544+02:002010-02-06T13:18:59.544+02:00Yes, I am also concerned about Facebook becoming m...Yes, I am also concerned about Facebook becoming more and more closed, building a separate Web as some called it.<br />Just now, after the '6-year-birthday' redesign, the 'Log off' button was <a href="http://netzwertig.com/2010/02/06/ueberarbeitete-homepage-facebook-versteckt-link-zum-abmelden/" title="Facebook versteckt Link zum Abmelden" rel="nofollow">removed from the bar</a> and hidden in a menu!<br />And when you click on links leading to other sites, I have seen some weird warnings about security, like the only secure place on the Web is Facebook!<br />It's like they don't want users to ever leave the site!George B. Mogahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13619656378366308760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2788216437526312119.post-54269168852663317102010-02-06T01:29:07.638+02:002010-02-06T01:29:07.638+02:00Scoble has flip flopped from GReader, to Twitter, ...Scoble has flip flopped from GReader, to Twitter, to Friendfeed and back to Twitter. His needs are quite a bit different to ours, since he prefers to 'dip' his hands into the stream for a sample of the news. However by doing that I don't know just how much depth he can possibly get out of it without spending an obscene amount of time. Most of the quality tweets (many being the same you can pull down from their main feed) are just diluted by random thoughts and verbal diarrhea. Way too much noise! However his bread and butter is visibility and exposure to drive traffic to his blog. So he needs to spread himself as far and wide as possible.<br /><br />He must have some very good keyword filtering or focus on a very succinct list if he is able to pull in the same quality we can get out of GReader.<br /><br />Twitter's real time in the moment streams can be fantastic...although even then you have to sift through the repetitive noise if you are following by hashtag.<br /><br />Facebook has the momentum and the potential to bring a Google Reader type news stream to the masses. I certainly agree with Daniel's assertion that most people haven't even heard of GReader. However, I have the same concern with Facebook as I have with Apple and their electronic stores; the walled garden and the inevitable power they can wield as more control of the distribution channel comes under their purview. <br /><br />Although I am likely being naive, I don't have the same concern about google. Many of their initiatives just feel more open and transparent. Apple are by far the worst of the big movers right now. Many people will buy into a solution and not put a single thought into the business practices of the company providing that solution; even to their future detriment.<br /><br />I guess we'll just have to see if Google can rescue their social strategy. Their current framework is a shambles so they are going to have to turn up the heat. They certainly have the user base they can tap into instantly. I'm just worried they aren't going to pursue that side of their business with enough vigor to count and instead focus on beefing up their hooks into real time search and enterprise apps.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00802195259513716335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2788216437526312119.post-87450208179703094472010-02-04T18:31:57.475+02:002010-02-04T18:31:57.475+02:00Thank you both for the feedback!
Phil, some promin...Thank you both for the feedback!<br />Phil, some prominent tech bloggers, like <a href="http://scobleizer.com/" title="Scobleizer — Exploring the 2010 Web" rel="nofollow">Robert Scoble</a>, argue Twitter is already a better news reader, but I disagree.<br />Facebook is trying to compete with Google by leveraging it's user base and fast growth, but it needs a better interface for news. I would like, for example, to see all updates from Pages in one place, even if I have removed them from the 'News Feed'; this way I could use 'Pages' as a powerful and social news source, without disturbing my interaction with 'Friends'.<br />Maybe Google should insist more and explain to people what RSS is and how it can be used, like they did with the "What is a browser?" campaign to promote Chrome. Unfortunately, I don't think they see a monetization opportunity for RSS.<br />Daniel, you could move almost all information from Facebook to Google Reader, if you like: <a href="http://jwz.livejournal.com/1144527.html" title="How to use Facebook with a feed reader" rel="nofollow">How to use Facebook with a feed reader</a> :)George B. Mogahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13619656378366308760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2788216437526312119.post-48827052911971115172010-02-04T15:31:01.233+02:002010-02-04T15:31:01.233+02:00You have a point. I use Google Reader also to keep...You have a point. I use Google Reader also to keep track of Facebook notifications ;) and I also enjoy TweetDeck when I want to check for news and links from people I'm following (around 300 organized in 13 groups).<br />I'm experimenting with Facebook as a news reader, but in the end, I'm already using GR and Twitter and I'm totally happy with them.<br />Facebook has really a large audience, most of the hundreds of millions users on Facebook don't even know what Google Reader is and maybe they have just heard about Twitter, it's a matter of what you get used to, what are you first exposed to I guess.<br />I agree with RWW that it could be really interesting for online newspapers and magazines. Facebook offers great social features that Google Reader is missing (at least RWW is right pointing out that people are already accustomed to Facebook's interface.)<br />I wrote a short tutorial on how to <a href="http://www.bealoud.com/social-media/facebook-news-reader/" rel="nofollow">make Facebook your News Reader</a>, check it out if you are interested :)Daniel Peiserhttp://www.bealoud.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2788216437526312119.post-75959063042915333822010-02-04T05:28:37.974+02:002010-02-04T05:28:37.974+02:00My sentiments exactly. I'm playing around with...My sentiments exactly. I'm playing around with using Twitter, Facebook and GReader for my news gathering, having used GReader for the past 4 or 5 years. I've tried to subscribe to similar feeds, (although most don't exist on both!) creating similar lists to the folders/tags I have in GReader. I'm cycling between them all and noticing the strengths of each. But in the end I have to agree with you in that I just don't get the density out of Twitter and Facebook that I get out of GReader. I think there is definitely room for consolidation between Linked-In, GReader, Facebook and Twitter, but unfortunately right now each has its own strength. However if I had choice, I would like to see Twitter overhauled!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00802195259513716335noreply@blogger.com